We have the option under our contract to take discipline/terminations to either CS or an arbitrator. CS is currently very pro-management, and has been for several years, so when I was union president, we took 2 termination cases to an arbitrator (different arbitrators) and won both of them. The supervisor's union took their one termination case to CS and lost. As it stands now, I'd prefer an arbitrator to CS, but I always want the CS option there, as things go in cycles, so we may soon go back to the days of "it takes an act of Congress for a CS police officer to stay fired". If anyone can get the arbitrator clause in their contract, do it. While it's not binding, judges almost never reverse an arbitrator's ruling, since they realize the value of arbitration in keeping cases out of the court room.