'Fast and Furious' Guns Found at Ariz. Crime Scene

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  1. Delta784

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    Whoever the Republican nominee is, the RNC better open their coffers and beat this drum during the general election with about a million hands, because we certainly will never see it in the mainstream media.

    Holder should almost certainly be indicted for his role in this, while Obama's role is still up for debate.
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    Fast and Furious Scandal Gives Rise to Gun Regulation Debate

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    As a candidate, Barack Obama once endorsed a ban on handguns and favored restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms. So when gun owners heard of Operation Fast and Furious, many feared the worst.
    Now, newly revealed emails suggest that if the gun-running operation didn't start out with that intent, as administration officials insist, the program certainly led to discussions on new gun regulations


    "There's a lot of talk that President Obama stated that he is working for gun control with alternative methods," said Arizona gun dealer Jeff Serdy. "I hope this isn't one of them."
    Serdy and others suspect the Obama administration used the gun-running operation to support regulations Congress would not even consider, namely, a rule requiring gun stores in the Southwest to report anyone who tries to buy multiple "long guns," or rifles, in a one-week period.
    "If the American people learn that the motivations for all of this was to make a case to deprive them of their Second Amendment rights or to make a case to further the (Justice) department's ability to further regulate gun rights within the United States, that would make them very angry," said Arizona Republican Rep. Trent Franks.
    Holder insists that's not accurate.


    Read more: Fast And Furious Scandal Gives Rise To Gun Regulation Debate | Fox News

  3. Delta784

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    Holder has lost any and all credibility.
  4. Pvt. Cowboy

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    It's COMPLETELY accurate. This whole program was to have the .gov step in and say, "Let's ban sales of firearms because they're getting shipped across the border."

    Anyone with HALF a brain can figure out that this is exactly what the Obama admin was trying to do. I pray that the rest comes out. This was a bag job to begin with, and has FURTHER removed any remaining trust I had with the .gov...
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    Justice Department changes inquiry response procedures to Congress after Fast and Furious
    The Justice Department is tightening procedures for responding to information requests from Congress in the aftermath of a troubled arms trafficking investigation.
    In Operation Fast and Furious, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed hundreds of weapons to flow across the border into Mexico.
    The Justice Department told three congressional committees in a letter Friday night that it has improved coordination between agents and their managers in carrying out arms trafficking investigations.
    Attorney General Eric Holder probably will face questions about the changes when he testifies Thursday before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. That committee has been investigating the department's mistakes in the probe since early last year.
    In a letter last February to Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, the department said that ATF had not authorized the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser and that the agency makes every effort to intercept weapons that have been purchased illegally.
    Yet in Operation Fast and Furious, both statements turned out to be incorrect because the ATF office in Phoenix, Ariz., had undertaken a risky tactic known as "gun-walking" in an unsuccessful effort to track small-time illicit gun buyers to the heads of major arms trafficking networks.
    Many of the guns wound up at crime scenes in Mexico and the U.S., including the scene of a killing near Nogales, Ariz., where U.S. border agent Brian Terry was slain. Two guns connected to Fast and Furious were found at the scene of Terry's murder.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/29/justice-department-changes-inquiry-responses-to-congress-after-fast-and-furious/?test=latestnews#ixzz1ksPctWHL

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    Issa threatens contempt proceeding against Holder if Justice fails to comply with Fast and Furious subpoenas

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    The head of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is threatening to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress if he fails to comply with congressional subpoenas for documents.
    Holder has until Feb. 9 to comply.
    In a four-page letter to Holder, Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., claims the Department of Justice has "misrepresented facts and misled Congress," which began its investigation of Operation Fast and Furious one year ago.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/31/issa-threatens-contempt-charge-against-holder-if-justice-fails-to-comply-with/?test=latestnews#ixzz1l8FI0Ro9


    Read the letter from Issa to Holder
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    Q: Did DOJ Know About 'Furious'?
    A: Memo Says Yes, a 'Terrific Idea'


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    • As Attorney General Eric Holder answers questions today about 'Operation Fast and Furious,' Republican lawmakers release new report suggesting top Department of Justice officials had extensive knowledge of and involvement in the botched gun-running operation — with one assistant AG allegedly cheering it as a 'terrific idea.'

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    Freshman Republicans Push Leaders for Contempt Resolution on Eric Holder

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    Speaker John Boehner is facing pressure from House freshmen who want to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.
    Six freshman members of the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday called on GOP leadership to bring a contempt of Congress resolution against Attorney General Eric Holder to the House floor, charging he has “thwarted and obstructed” Congress’ efforts to conduct Congressional oversight of the "Operation Fast and Furious" gun-running program.

    In a letter to Speaker John Boehner(Ohio), Majority Leader Eric Cantor(Va.) and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.); Reps. Sandy Adams (Fla.), Ben Quayle (Ariz.),Tim Griffin (Ark.), Dennis Ross (Fla.), Tom Marino (Pa.) and Trey Gowdy (S.C.) argued that “the House of Representatives has seen its proper oversight function thwarted and obstructed. It's time for the House to formally recognize the obvious — that Attorney General Holder has not and will not cooperate with the legitimate investigation launched by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and is therefore in contempt of Congress.”

    For weeks, Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa(Calif.) has unsuccessfully lobbied leadership to allow contempt proceedings to begin against Holder.

    At issue is Issa’s investigation of Operation Fast and Furious, a 2010 gun-smuggling investigation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. In the operation, ATF agents allowed guns to “walk,” which meant ending surveillance on high-powered weapons suspected to be en route to Mexican drug cartels.

    In their letter, the freshmen complain that Holder has not cooperated enough, arguing that “Attorney General Holder has continually failed to produce thousands of valuable documents that have been requested by both the Judiciary Committee and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. When documents are produced, many are heavily redacted beyond recognition.
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    Boehner in Talks With Justice Dept. on Gun-Running Inquiry
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    By CHARLIE SAVAGE WASHINGTON - House Speaker John Boehner has opened direct negotiations with the Justice Department aimed at resolving a dispute over subpoenaed information related to the botched gun-trafficking investigation dubbed Operation Fast and ...
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      Attorney General Eric Holder once again faces his toughest critic this morning when House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa asks about six wiretap applications he says proves high-ranking DOJ officials knew about so-called 'gunwalking' tactics.
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    House oversight committee schedules contempt vote for Holder

    The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has scheduled a vote for next week to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over the controversial Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation.
    Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., released a 64-page memo in early May outlining the case for holding the attorney general in contempt. The chairman based his argument around Holder's failure to respond to an October 2011 subpoena for internal Justice Department documents on the operation.
    The committee's vote for contempt is scheduled for June 20.
    The Justice Department maintains that it has cooperated with the investigation and provided thousands of documents. Holder has testified before the committee at least eight times about Fast and Furious, most recently on Thursday before the House Judiciary Committee.
    Issa grilled Holder in a particularly heated exchange where he accused the attorney general of failing to answer questions about the investigation.
    "Have you and your attorneys produced internally the materials responsive to the subpoenas?" Issa asked.
    "We believe that we have responded to the subpoenas," Holder began.
    "No. Mr. Attorney General, you're not a good witness. A good witness answers the question asked," Issa snapped.

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    Republican frustration with Attorney General Eric Holder over 'Fast & Furious' and his refusal to appoint an independent counsel to probe White House leaks boils over in Judiciary hearing as Sen. John Cornyn calls on Holder to resign, saying: 'You violated the public trust.'
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    Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday agreed to make what he called "an extraordinary accommodation" to Republicans investigating the botched "Operation Fast and Furious" by turning over department emails he has long insisted deal with internal deliberations and should be protected.
    Holder is trying to head off a push by House Republicans to hold him in contempt of Congress for allegedly "stonewalling" their investigation. And he offered to personally brief the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., in the next few days.
    "We believe that this briefing, and the documents we are prepared to provide ... will fully address the remaining concerns identified in the recent letters to me from you and House leadership," Holder said in a letter to Issa. "The department's willingness to provide these materials is a serious, good faith effort to bring this matter to an amicable resolution."
    Issa's office said in an early response that Holder's letter "only seems to indicate a willingness to offer a selective telling" of key events and that the chairman is still asking the Justice Department to explain "how it is prepared to alter its opposition to producing subpoenaed documents"
    Earlier Thursday, Holder's allies on the committee mounted their own aggressive defense of the attorney general, circulating a memo to House Democrats that calls the Republican argument for contempt, laid out in a contempt citation last month, "irresponsible, unprecedented, and contrary to the rule of law."


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/14/house-dems-mount-holder-defense-as-republicans-pursue-contempt-vote/?test=latestnews#ixzz1xrOQOvjm
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    Holder found in contempt of Congress by House Oversight Committee


    WASHINGTON -- The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform voted to find Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt of Congress for failing to provide subpoenaed documents in the flawed Fast and Furious gun-tracking case, just hours after President Obama asserted executive privilege and backed the attorney general’s refusal to release the material.
    The vote for contempt and the White House insertion into the growing Southwest border “gun-walking” scandal set up a significant constitutional clash between the two branches of the federal government, one that ultimately may not be resolved until it reaches the courts.
    The Republican-led committee, headed by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), voted strictly along party lines in finding Holder in contempt. It now sends the matter to the full House for a floor vote to ask the U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., or a special prosecutor to force the Obama administration to provide the documents.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politic...-oversight-committee-20120620,0,1925455.story
  24. kwflatbed

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    They should go after OBAMA TOO !!
  25. CJIS

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    never happen

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