Marijuana and hiring/employment.

Discussion in 'Getting on the job?' started by Rogergoodwin, Mar 21, 2017.

  1. Fuzzywuzzy

    Fuzzywuzzy MassCops Member

    I can't believe so many of you guys, with a massive number of combined total law enforcement years under your belts, have not learned arguing with a pothead is a waste of time and effort.
     
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  2. Rogergoodwin

    Rogergoodwin MassCops Member

    Alcoholics love to argue I guess.
     
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  3. Crazy Otto

    Crazy Otto Working for the clampdown

    Is that the ban bus I hear warming up?
     
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  4. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    This is awesome
    It's like a deputy sheriff or uniform thread :D

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  5. Rogergoodwin

    Rogergoodwin MassCops Member

    Anything posted on a public forum could be used in court, but my opinion that the federal drug laws should change to reflect the current laws of our state, would never come in to play in court. Regardless of anyones feeling on the law, citizens have a duty to obey it.
    Regardless, these antiquated drug laws and mandatory sentences will be a relic of the past pretty soon.
     
  6. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    It's more a case of, we get drunk, we either become totally passive and happy, or aggressive and want to fight someone. Tough to throw a punch online. :confused:

    Now, excuse me, my glass is near empty.:eek:
     
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  7. Joel98

    Joel98 MassCops Member

    He is calling anyone (the majority of us) who is arguing against him an alcoholic....for some reason. It's just his way of deflecting.
     
  8. Rogergoodwin

    Rogergoodwin MassCops Member

    I was responding to the person who said anyone who smokes is a pothead, much like anyone who drinks is an alcoholic. Attention to detail, son.
    Also, no need to get butt hurt over a forum. You won't make it far in this field like that.
     
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  9. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    I drink. You want to, great. You don't want to, great. I'm saying, I don't like to argue over stuff I don't have a strong opinion on. I'm saying that, with drunks (I've dealt with so many, it's scary!) they either........oh shit, who cares.

    Please don't interpret my posts. I can do it marginally better than anyone.
     
  10. Pvt. Cowboy

    Pvt. Cowboy Lemme take a selfie Staff Member

    A lot of us, myself included for a long time, thought that "weed" was bad because it was illegal, and "you'd get in trouble" for having/using it etc. Kind of the mantra that they teach you growing up, right?

    Fast forward to now. Now let me preface this by saying I'm far too physically active to have the time for weed, I don't even really drink anymore (waking up with two kids at 0630 with a hangover? Hard pass)

    I see marijuana as the enemy of the pharmaceutical industry and lobby, one of the most powerful in the country. Seems that there's a lot of beneficial properties that can be found here, but I would also state that more research/testing should be done.

    In the midst of an opioid epidemic, pot doesn't seem to bad right now. It's a far better alternative to pills, but the difference is one is legal (made from some of the same ingredients as heroin, and I think we can all agree that's poison) and one has an illegal taboo stuck to it.

    It's all about mindset. Guarantee if some scientist found ultra strong pain relieving properties in weed, and could extract it for pill form the pharma lobbies would be shoveling money towards politicians to get weed legalized nationwide.
     
  11. HistoryHound

    HistoryHound Supporting Member

    I did discuss this with my pain management specialist. Take this as you will, I trust the woman so I believe her, but her experience with patients that have switched to medical marijuana is that it's not terribly effective when it comes to pain management. She said she's seen patients with anxiety find relief, but patients without anxiety don't report any benefit. I guess it comes down to what the actual source of the pain is. If it's got a psychological component; then, it might work. I'm just not so sure it would work for someone who's pain is from something physical. I don't know how they'd actually study this though considering pain and anxiety are intertwined. Many doctors still believe chronic pain is caused by anxiety/depression while others believe that being in chronic pain caused the anxiety/depression. The only thing I know for sure that it works for is to increase appetite. I've had doctors recommend a drug (think it was Marinol) that's got some property of pot in it for older relatives who had decreased appetites and couldn't keep their weight up.

    As far as recreational pot, I'm not a fan. The thing that most people seem to be forgetting is that the pot today isn't the same as the pot we could get in high school. It's a hell of a lot stronger. It kind of annoys me when I see people my age making comments about doing it high school and "look how we turned out".
     
  12. Rogergoodwin

    Rogergoodwin MassCops Member

    It may be stronger, but due to regulation it's also safer. You don't have to worry about it being laced with anything.
    I know the states not perfect, but prior to this law, drug dealers regulated the market. At least now we can see if the state can do a better job. Maybe keep weed money out of dealers pockets and put in into state programs.
     
  13. Pvt. Cowboy

    Pvt. Cowboy Lemme take a selfie Staff Member

    I'm no scientist, and I guess I'm just forming hypothetical scenarios relative to pot use vs pills. If the pain relieving properties aren't there, it is what it is... I'm just saying that there could be more studies put into any type of positive use.

    If it abates anxiety, cool, maybe it can be used instead of xanax? I dunno.

    Point is, people tend to think of it as "bad" because we're conditioned to, from a young age. Because politicians outlawed it, thus the police have to enforce it.

    If someone thinks I'm going to dictate what I do, based on the opinions of politicians, they're fuckin' insane. Look at the 2nd amendment and places like Cali, Mass and NY. The idiots that run those places think they're gonna tell me I can't have xyz gun, and can only have xyz size magazine??

    Yeah, fuck right off. If I was into pot, I'd have the same mentality.
     
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  14. HistoryHound

    HistoryHound Supporting Member

    If they came up with some studies that showed it worked that would be great and I'd give it a shot in heartbeat. God knows I've tried some ridiculous and expensive alternative therapies. I just don't think medicinal marijuana is the panacea that the supporters want us to think it is. Don't get me started on the politicians. The day I trust anything any of them tell me is the day I have my husband check me into the looney bin.
     
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