Municipal and S.S.P.O train together

Discussion in 'Academy Information' started by Macop, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. Macop

    Macop Subscribing Member

    Maybe I am living under a rock. I just read an interesting article about the State Police Academy training the municipal officers along side S.S.P.O. Attending classes together and such. I have never heard of this, anyone else hear about this. I read the article in the French and Electric blue newsletter. I couldnt figure out how to put the link for just the one article.

    http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/msp/news-and-updates/french-and-electric-blue-march-2013.pdf
     
  2. TopCop24

    TopCop24 Working in the land of misfit toys

    Attention to detail, the very first line of the article.....
    On October 24, 2012, the Massachusetts State Police Academy began its first simultaneous training of local and Special State Police Officers (SSPO) student officers in more than twenty-five years.
     
  3. Macop

    Macop Subscribing Member

    Don't be a smart ass, I was pointing out how the concept was interesteing. When it started was not the point, only that I was unaware of it and was looking to have discussion.
     
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  4. Bloodhound

    Bloodhound MassCops Member

    And yet somehow, the SSPO academy doesn't count for municipal police departments.
     
  5. SinePari

    SinePari Needs more complaints

    Now when EOPSS and the MPTC can agree to anything at all concerning certification, please save that vintage bottle of wine for me.
     
  6. TopCop24

    TopCop24 Working in the land of misfit toys

    You've been on this site long enough to know the smart ass comments would be coming.
     
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  7. mpd61

    mpd61 Federal Auxiliary Police

    Oh Oh, OH this is sooooo hard!:eek:
     
  8. Macop

    Macop Subscribing Member

    Scotty, you be nice!
     
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  9. Macop

    Macop Subscribing Member

    lol, I know, I know.
     
  10. Macop

    Macop Subscribing Member

    As far fetched as it may seem I do see a day when the academies merge into one. Something has got to give. When I went through the S.S.P.O it was 14 weeks and then ten months after doing that I went to the M.P.O.C and it was 21 weeks. A pretty significant difference in length. Now the difference is like 5 weeks, one is 600 HRS and the other is 800. I have a booklet from the IACP which outlines all the counterparts to the MCJTC in the country. Massachusetts was like number two for length and the ones right behind Ma were in the 600 range. Not to mention when I went through our staff found 38 states that took the S.S.P.O as a full municipal lateral.
     
  11. LGriffin

    LGriffin Supporting Member

    I didn't do SSPO but I heard it's very efficient. I did R/I and MPOC just about back to back. For the core classes, the instructors were the same and came with the same lesson plan. Aside from some wasted time politically correct crap, EVOC and FATS training I didn't see what all the fuss was about. Especially when you consider that PT was optional for certain poster children and that was before the change.:rolleyes:
     
  12. GMass

    GMass Guest

    Some academies are now 7-8 months long in some areas. Some have you in an academy, FTO, then back to the academy for 8 more weeks (Maine SP.). RI was 16 weeks just a few years ago, and is now up to 26 (with the first two weeks soon to be residential).
    A legislative committee has just been formed to develop and FUND a POST system in Mass. You'll see big changes in the next 3-4 years.
     
  13. GMass

    GMass Guest

    I did the R/I academy 4 years before heading to the F/T, and found a tremendous difference in all aspects of items that were already covered. I learned a decent amount in the law blocks in the R/I academy, but it couldn't hold a candle to the degree in which things were covered in the F/T academy. Heck, adding together the Con, Crim, M/V and drug law blocks alone was 20hrs longer than my entire R/I academy.
     
  14. LGriffin

    LGriffin Supporting Member

    Nice!
    My hours were obviously longer than R/I but comprised of the same material.
    We also had about 20 hours of racial sensitivity training. The instructor started by asking us to guess what her first job was. When we all guessed the classic fast food jobs, like those we endured, we were told that we were all racists for not guessing that her first job was in a lab. I didn't hear anything after that.
    Got about 2 hours of felony stops though.
     
  15. mpd61

    mpd61 Federal Auxiliary Police

    But Aaron, it's so hard after what Massasoit and Yimmy have both done to me LOL!!!!!!!!
     
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  16. GMass

    GMass Guest

    I had a black guy doing my psych exam. When asked to describe my girlfriend, I did so. He asked "Is she black" "No" "WHY NOT!?!" "Because her parents are both white".
    I was prepped that the question was coming. Nice try, pal.
     
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  17. j809

    j809 Subscribing Member

    You will never see sspo academies be recognized for MPOC academies because the campus chiefs do not want it. The only reason they were created in the first place is to stop the revolving door of sending campus officers to ft MPOC academies and leaving for towns.
     
  18. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    Guy Seymour, right?
     
  19. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    My full-time MCJTC academy was 13 weeks in 1988.
     
  20. GMass

    GMass Guest

    I'm looking at pics of him on Linkedin. I THINK that's him, but I doubt he flew up from Atlanta to do my psych. I could be wrong.
     
  21. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    He went back and forth between Boston and Atlanta for awhile, that's how lucrative the business is/was. He did my psych for the BHA, but someone else did it for my current job.
     
  22. j809

    j809 Subscribing Member

    Yeah he did mine too really tried to piss me off was funny
     
  23. GMass

    GMass Guest

    He also faked falling asleep during mine. Instead of continuing talking, I should have said "I know, boring as shit. I'm taking a nap too" and curled up on the floor.
     
  24. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    He tried the old "Why isn't your girlfriend black?" routine with me.

    That was my first go-around with the psych and I had no coaching, so I was honestly baffled by the question. When I was single, if I found a woman attractive and we got along well, I didn't care what race she was, I just loved women. I guess my honesty came through, because I "passed".
     
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  25. grn3charlie

    grn3charlie No! My teeth are real. See?

    Next person to get him and get the "Why isn't your girlfriend black" question answeres, cuz my boyfriend is. I wanna see his reaction to that answer
     
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