Quinn Bill to be cut (and other PD money)

Discussion in 'Pay, Benefits & Contract Discussions' started by Chief Wiggins, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. SinePari

    SinePari Needs more complaints

    Last humping I saw you doing involved a wildly enthusiastic call for a lost wallet report waiting for you at the station. PBCFLCop? Where do I sign?

  2. Deuce

    Deuce screw you...

    Enthusiastic.. Yep that's me... Shoulda seen duh 2 toofless wundahs waitin' ta tell me dare woes....

    In my defense; if someone was actually giving the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts its rightly due, instead of sitting next to me listening to my righteous stories of actual police work, I would have been out proactively policing the "heart of Massachusetts"... ..enthusiasticaly....
  3. SinePari

    SinePari Needs more complaints

    "No shit, there I was...up to my knees in expended LAWs, grenade pins, and '60 links...giving the shit-stabbers the good news..."
  4. Deuce

    Deuce screw you...

    LAWs and 60 links? Showing yer age old man..

    Not me, I was a chairborne REMF pog. Heck I shoulda got a Purple Heart for the callouses on my ass and hemorroids I had to endure.. I was soooo un-appreciated.. Firing weapons caused my silky smooth hands to blister and trigger finger to cramp..

    As far as being a cop though; I am infused with gung-ho enthusiasm..
  5. Deuce

    Deuce screw you...

    Nothing?? C'mon I had tears flowing as I was typing...
  6. SinePari

    SinePari Needs more complaints

    No, no, no...that was aces. I got distracted by the women in uniform thread. Ya know, hoes before bros...
  7. Deuce

    Deuce screw you...

    Well played, carry on...
  8. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 98K+Poster

    Boston cops sue for $10M from Quinn Bill cuts

    By O’Ryan Johnson

    Members of the Boston patrolmen’s union are suing the city for back payments of the “Quinn Bill” - a state-mandated pay boost for higher education that was cut from the budget earlier this year.
    The Menino administration blasted the suit yesterday, saying it would cost the cash-strapped city an additional $10 million.
    “If the plaintiffs were successful with the lawsuit, it would be equivalent to another $10 million local-aid cut to the city,” said city lawyer John Dunlap.
    The Quinn Bill gives cops a bonus for associate, bachelor’s and master’s degrees, half of which is funded by the city, with the rest by the state. But the state slashed Quinn Bill reimbursements last year from $55 million to $10 million. In response, the city cut payments to cops by nearly half.
  9. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 98K+Poster

    Police pay system questioned, but funds approved

    WESTMINSTER — Residents last night voted for the town to appropriate $30,141 to cover the state’s unpaid portion of Quinn Bill funds.

    Introductory statements at the special town meeting showed the divisiveness of the issue. The Board of Selectmen was divided, with two in favor and one against, but issued no minority opinion.

    “This article is not asking voters to say they are in favor of, or to rescind the Quinn Bill,” said Board of Selectmen Chairman John Fairbanks. “That is something that could be added to a future town meeting.”

    “The question tonight is, ‘Are you going to pay for the services received last year?’” said Selectman Joseph Flanagan. The majority of the Advisory Board was in favor of the motion, but member Peter Normandin opposed it.

    Full Story:
    Police pay system questioned, but funds approved
  10. Lost

    Lost MassCops Member

    You know, I just saw this. The gaul of Menino to even make this suggestion. "I know, we owe you $10 million, but we can't afford it. Sue us? Didn't you hear, we can't afford it!"

    What do you suppose would happen if I went down to City Hall next week and said "I can't afford my (insert ridiculous cause here) tax this year, but it's OK because I just can't afford it." How about if BPD did this, and said the money to pay the tax was in the $10 mil the city owes them? I bet they wouldn't even find a sympathetic ear.
  11. jbarrett

    jbarrett MassCops Member

    I wasn't sure where to post this list of legislators that voted against Quinn...look at all those (D)'s!
  12. m3cop

    m3cop MassCops Member

    Damn!!!! Looks like a really bad report card:redcarded:!!!
  13. OfficerObie59

    OfficerObie59 Public Trough Feeder

    Just keep in mind the reason there are no "R's" on that sheet is that the Republicans had a few different amendments that would have also cut Quinn in different ways. Additionally, if you don't see you legislators name, don't assume they voted FOR you. Remember many of them took that BS advice from the ethics commission that if they were in anyway related to a cop they had to abstain from voting.
  14. j809

    j809 Subscribing Member

    Does anyone know how much Quinn was funded for fy11? Last year they funded around 10% instead of 50%.
  15. Bloodhound

    Bloodhound MassCops Member

    FY10 was 10 million, FY11 was 5 million.
  16. Deuce

    Deuce screw you...

    j, no one's going to answer any of your posts cuz, well, that awesome sig of yours is awesomely distracting and no one will read them. Don't change it either..
  17. j809

    j809 Subscribing Member

    You'd give up at least 10% of your Quinn to hit that. :teeth_smile:
  18. Deuce

    Deuce screw you...

    If I hit that I'd lose a lot more than 10%..

    WTF happened to it?? Put it back!
  19. SinePari

    SinePari Needs more complaints

    Sigs only appear once if you have multiple posts per page. Besides, in about 5 years those things are gonna look like tube socks filled with sand. I hope she invests wisely...
  20. Deuce

    Deuce screw you...

    Ah, I see. Ok, j, you're limited to 1 post per page..

    That's 5 years of playful joy. And cosmetic surgery has come a long way..
  21. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 98K+Poster

    Quinn Bill deal cut in Falmouth

    By Aaron Gouveia / Cape Cod Times
    Saturday, November 6, 2010 -

    FALMOUTH — The chairman of the board of selectman says he made a mistake in signing off on an agreement to give three police department captains more than $50,000 annually without town meeting approval, reports the Cape Cod Times.
    The captains and selectmen reached a settlement in August in response to the state’s decision not to fund the so-called Quinn Bill, a state program that gives law enforcement officials pay increases after earning higher education degrees. Town Manager Robert Whritenour said the deal was dependent on town meeting voters approving a reclassification of the captains’ jobs that would have placed them in a higher pay grade.
    The captains hired a private attorney and were threatening legal action against the town.

    Full Story:
    Quinn Bill deal cut in Falmouth - BostonHerald.com
  22. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 98K+Poster

    North Reading told to fund officers’ Quinn bill raises

    Judge tosses deal to save costs as state’s share lags

    By Travis Andersen

    Globe Staff / December 23, 2010

    A superior court judge has ordered the town of North Reading to fully fund all pay raises for local police officers under the Quinn Bill, even though the state has sharply cut the town’s reimbursement for the educational incentive.
    In a decision dated last Friday, Judge Kathe M. Tuttman ordered the town to pay for the raises for all officers who qualified for the salary hikes dating back to July 1, 2009. Attorneys for the town and the union representing police could not be reached for comment yesterday.
    Town Administrator Greg Balukonis said that if the ruling stands, it will cost North Reading upwards of $180,000 per fiscal year. He said officials have not decided if they will appeal the decision.

    Full Story:
    North Reading ordered to fund officers’ Quinn bill raises - The Boston Globe

    Who should pay for the Quinn bill?

    Posted 6 hour(s) ago
    A lawsuit challenging whether cities and towns can get out of paying millions in bonuses to college-educated police officers has made its way to the state’s highest court. Who do you think should be responsible for making up shortfalls in funding of the Quinn bill, cities and towns or the state? Take our poll. Post a comment or e-mail us at editpage@ledger.com or letters@enterprisenews.com. Call 781-340-3157 and leave a short message that we might post as an audio letter.

    Who do you think should be responsible for making up shortfalls in funding of the Quinn bill, cities and towns or the state?

    Challenges to Quinn bill funding head to state supreme court
  23. POSD

    POSD MassCops Member

    This is great news! Here's hoping that the BPD suite has the same victorious results.

    There is one thing I do want to share; I don't doubt that as we win these law suites, that the compensations should be retroactive to the day our bargained benefits were cut. HOWEVER, I strongly believe that we can not be greedy either. I am of the opinion that if our towns and cities restore full Quinn payments going forward, we SHOULD fore go retroactive pay and [in this economy] realize how lucky we are to be in this [victorious] position and the fact that we now get an extra "x" % every paycheck etc....

    Cities and towns are struggling to keep up, yes, we did our part by foregoing increases and the Quinn hit for the past year, but lets be grateful it is bing restored.
    Happy Holidays Ya'll.
  24. MetrowestPD

    MetrowestPD MassCops Member

    Going to completely disagree with you here. If it is restored the city/town will look for any and every reason at the next contract to eliminate it. You bargained for it and the city/town breached the agreement and unilaterally decided not to pay, they owe you the money.

    I agree cities and Towns are absolutely scraping by, however it cannot be only on our backs. Where do you see them trying to cut teachers salaries or other department's salaries. Because it's restored does not mean it will be restored for the next contract. You can use it as a tool in negotiations, but you can't just forego what is owed to you.
  25. j809

    j809 Subscribing Member

    MCOP said no more Mr.Nice guy with the towns as we are getting screwed every chance they get, with the new evergreen clause and home rule petitions to circumvent CBA on medical insurance.

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