Who do you like for President? (Merged Threads)

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  1. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    Vote democrat and you will get your wishes.
  2. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 95K+Poster

    Obama On Aunt: 'Laws Have To Be Obeyed'

    [​IMG] Several reporters and photographers have visited the South Boston complex where Obama's aunt lives, but BHA Police are keeping people out.

    (Why are they protecting her ? she should be arrested and jailed she is no better than any other illegal) My Comment

    By Eileen Sullivan, Associated Press Writer

    BOSTON (AP) ― The government is investigating whether any laws were broken in the disclosure that Barack Obama's aunt was living in the country illegally.

    Obama's half aunt, who is from Kenya, was ordered to leave the United States years ago after an immigration judge denied her request for asylum, a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss the case.

    The woman, Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.

    The Immigration and Customs Enforcement asked its inspector general and the Office of Professional Responsibility on Saturday to investigate whether any policies were violated when information about Onyango's case was publicly disclosed, ICE spokeswoman Kelly Nantel said. The Homeland Security Department, which oversees ICE, cannot disclose details about an individual's immigration status.

    Information about Onyango's case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release, just five days before the presidential election. Obama's campaign strategist David Axelrod said people are suspicious about stories that surface so close to an election.

    In an interview with CBS News' Katie Couric on Sunday, Obama said: "If she is violating laws those laws have to be obeyed. We're a nation of laws. Obviously that doesn't lessen my concern for her, I haven't been able to be in touch with her. But I'm a strong believer you have to obey the law."

    The campaign said it was returning $260 that Onyango had contributed in small increments to Obama's presidential bid over several months.

    Federal election law prohibits foreigners from making political donations.

    Onyango listed her employer as the Boston Housing Authority and last gave $5 on Sept. 19.

    Onyango, 56, is part of Obama's large paternal family, with many related to him by blood whom he never knew growing up.

    Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., left the future presidential nominee when the boy was 2, and they reunited only once -- for a monthlong visit when Obama was 10. The elder Obama lived most of his life in Kenya, where he fathered seven other children with three other wives. He died in a car crash in 1982.

    Obama was raised for the most part by his mother and her parents in Hawaii. He first met his father's side of the family when he traveled to Africa 20 years ago. He referred to Onyango as "Auntie Zeituni" when describing the trip in his memoir, saying she was "a proud woman."

    Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, noncriminal violation of immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the U.S.

    The AP has not been able to reach Onyango for comment.

  3. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    Something to look forward to if the Messiah gets elected.

  4. Inspector

    Inspector Subscribing Member

    I have and will continue to vote for McCain. I'm just wondering how the hell we can continue to survive when every group all the way from unions to AARP to police associations and federal employee organizations point out how voting for Republican candidates is hurting the cause of working people. I have worked since I was 16 and I believe in hard work. I've earned two pensions and have saved to supplement them. My wife too has worked all her life and gets a pension from NH as well as Soc. Sec. We constantly get told democrats hand out money to those who do not work yet I see Republicans trying to take money from our pockets while many of the super-rich, some of whom I know personally, are still not hurting and are building even bigger cash reserves which they say they may need should Obama win. I have waited to see if a guy I know took a 24% hit in his portfolio like I did. I learned his multi-million dollar portfolio was converted to tax free bonds two months ahead of the slide because he saw this coming. Inside info? I don't know but I know those of us who are truly the middle class are getting screwed and I have yet to see any help from the party I belonged to (now independent) coming my way. Piss me off more and that X could end up on the Obama side of the ticket. I know I'm not going to vote for the Republican state reps who tried to weaken the pensions. It comes down to the fact that's not good nor fair to people like my wife who have given many years of service and if people earning money have to dig deeper to pay back the debt they owe so be it.
  5. Wolfman

    Wolfman "Ultima Ratio Civis" Staff Member

    Difference here is that for the most part the "super-rich", as you put it, earned their money through wise investments and business decisions. They are certainly entitled to keep every penny, should they wish. The "super rich" employ the not-so-super rich and allow them to provide for their families. It's a tough concept on a message board that is geared towards those who draw their pay from the public well, but most people out there depend on the business owners and other super rich for their paychecks. There is a much bigger picture out there that affects us all:

    By beating the crap out of the "super rich" financially, this will do nothing to improve the lot of those who are not super rich. If you hit a business with a tax increase, do you honestly think they will write the check for that increase from their personal accounts? No, they will increase their prices, they will freeze wages and curb hiring to make up the difference.

    Keep a dollar in their pocket and 90 cents will work its way back into the system to boost their business in the form of increased productivity, employment, higher wages and lower product prices. Take a dollar from their pockets in the form of taxes and you will increase prices, stifle growth, halt employment and these idiots like Deval and Barney Frank will keep 50 cents, give 40 cents to deadbeats who refuse to produce and maybe 10 cents will work its way back into the system.

    If more people were working, less would need bailouts. The only jobs government creates are govermnent jobs. The rest is all welfare.
  6. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    I explained to my 8 year old the federal tax structure a bit over the weekend because there were Obama supporters at just about every intersection in southern NH this weekend.

    I explained that if dad makes $100 the .gov will take $30. I then explained that someone how makes less than me will only have $10-15 taken out of that $100. I told him that not only do I pay in more because I make more, but I also pay a percentage that is twice as high. He looked at me and said..

    "Dad that is isn't fair, everyone should pay in the same amount..."

    I then explained that Obama will increase my percentage if he is elected. He replied with "I hope he doesn't get elected dad, that will be bad for this country." That put a nice big smile on my face. He's 8 and he gets it.
  7. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 95K+Poster

  8. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 95K+Poster

    Dead Voters in Cleveland

    (Cleveland, Ohio) According to a report by NewNet5.com, dead people are voting in Cuyahoga County. Kind of spooky, eh?
    Among the thousands of graves at Highland Park Cemetery, one modest tombstone stands out.

    Alex Holmes Sr. has been at rest in that cemetery for 15 years. But recent election records show he cast a ballot in this year's primary.

    And our 5 On Your Side investigation found a home on Cleveland's east side listed as Holmes' address.

    Jeremy Moore, Holmes' grandson, was stunned.

    "He's deceased. Deceased since 1993," Moore said.

    And it doesn't appear to be a name mix-up.

    Records reveal Alex Holmes Jr. -- who is still alive -- voted in the same election as his deceased father.

    Cuyahoga County Elections Director Jane Platten said she'll look in to it.​
    Previously, investigators found 13,000 dead voters registered in Cuyahoga County and more than two dozen cast ballots. Elections officials said that dead people would be removed from the rolls.

    Nevertheless, investigators have found thousands more dead voters on the rolls with their ballots still being cast from the grave.

    H/T Patrick Poole

  9. Simon

    Simon Guest

    Well with BRAIN-dead people voting for Obama, these stiffs should blend right in.
  10. CJIS

    CJIS MassCops Member

    I got may bags backed for a 4 year vacation. Anyone have any good destinations I could go to?
  11. KozmoKramer

    KozmoKramer Administrator Staff Member

    I hear ya CJIS, unfortunately the rest of the world is either socialist, theocratic or dictatorial. I don't know where we could go...
    Although Swedish and Danish women are a banquet for the eyes...
    See ya in Stockholm bro....
  12. Simon

    Simon Guest

    Maybe we can get a group rate BK.
  13. Hawgcop15

    Hawgcop15 MassCops Member

    Use your brain!!.......Vote McCain!!!!!! :vcop:
  14. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 95K+Poster

  15. Wolfman

    Wolfman "Ultima Ratio Civis" Staff Member

    I was in Worcester today doing this-n-that and there was a huge conglomeration of Obamasheep bleating on the street corners, waving their signs, wearing their T-Shirts, jumping up and down and whatnot...

    ...at 1:30 in the afternoon, while the ostensibly productive members of society were at work.

    Also, anyone hear the interview with the Obamasheep, she was all gleeful that, "When Obama gets elected, I'll never have to worry about my mortgage, my car payment or my credit cards bills any more!" They believe this shit, boys and girls, and many have already voted since their handlers are afriad they'd sleep though the voting tomorrow or not want to deal with the lines.

    Get out there tomorrow and do the right thing. Put as much pressure on the undecideds that you know to do the same. If someone is so hell bent on despising Bush that they will not vote for a republican, encourage them to give their vote to Ron Paul instead of tilting the scales in Obama's favor. This way they don't have to vote for a republican but they can have a clear conscience by also not voting for a Marxist. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Hide your assets, secure your supplies, it could be a long rough ride ahead.
  16. 7costanza

    7costanza Supporting Member

    Anyone have any predictions...
  17. Andy0921

    Andy0921 MassCops Member

  18. Johnny Law

    Johnny Law Nemo me impune lacessit Staff Member

  19. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    I say McCain pulls it out.
  20. KozmoKramer

    KozmoKramer Administrator Staff Member

    From your mouth to God's ear brother.....
  21. Tuna

    Tuna Always entertained

    Koz, can I jump on board with you guys? I getting real shakey about this election.
  22. Andy0921

    Andy0921 MassCops Member

    I sure hope you're right.
  23. 7costanza

    7costanza Supporting Member

    Obama wins in earliest vote:up_yours:

      • IM[​IMG] AP – Bob Marville of Manchester and his daughter Leah, 6, check out the voting booths set up for the first …
    DIXVILLE NOTCH, N.H. – Barack Obama came up a big winner in the presidential race in Dixville Notch and Hart's Location, N.H., where tradition of having the first Election Day ballots tallied lives on.
    Democrat Obama defeated Republican John McCain by a count of 15 to 6 in Dixville Notch, where a loud whoop accompanied the announcement. The town of Hart's Location reported 17 votes for Obama, 10 for McCain and two for write-in Ron Paul. Independent Ralph Nader was on both towns' ballots but got no votes.
    The first Dixville Notch voter, following tradition established in 1948, was picked ahead of the midnight voting and the rest of the town's 21 registered voters followed suit in Tuesday's first minutes.
    Town Clerk Rick Erwin said the northern New Hampshire town is proud of its tradition, but added that the most important thing is that the turnout represents a 100 percent vote.
    President Bush won the votes in Dixville Notch and Hart's Location in 2004 on the way to his re-election.
  24. SinePari

    SinePari Needs more complaints

    I'm voting for McCain...but telling hot college chicks I voted for Obama.
  25. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 95K+Poster

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